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when barack obama was elected the first time, they summed it up with this head line. "black man given nation's worst job." that was for the start of his first term. might be more apt for second term. the second term is when the job turns out to be a difficult job for presidents. if you go back to woodrow wilson in his second term trying to join the league of nations, that was pretty much the end of wilson. that was his second term. when it was truman in his second term during the korean war, he fired general mcarthur. the country responded by throwing parades for the general who got fired. and harry truman left office with approval ratings that dick cheney would kill for, but for everyone else would see that as a disaster. second terms are almost always seen as a disaster, then at least when the big disappointments happen and often the failures. when the soviet union beat us, when the soviet union beat the united states to put the first space satellite into orbit, when no nation had put something like that -- up in space and had it stick there and the soviets did it f
when barack obama was elected the first time, they summed it up with this head line. "black man given nation's worst job." that was for the start of his first term. might be more apt for second term. the second term is when the job turns out to be a difficult job for presidents. if you go back to woodrow wilson in his second term trying to join the league of nations, that was pretty much the end of wilson. that was his second term. when it was truman in his second term during the...
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president obama wants to get it done. he wants to keep the sort of onus on republicans to get something done. that, i think, will focus us a little bit on immigration reform, maybe a slight move off the fiscal cliff for a few hours tomorrow. >> in fact, i think the meeting actually starts this afternoon, so i misspoke on that. they might have wanted not to it talk about the drug war, but they have this horrible assassination now of the death of the mayor a fighter against the cartel and already lost her husband. it goes on. >> absolutely. i would say, andrea, always with these meetings you get to talk about what you want to talk about and also things you don't want to talk about. let's see what comes out of it when they greet the cameras and what they have to say. my guess is we'll hear some talk about immigration and the need to reform it. >> a lot of people hope for a new chapter between the two countries. a much more intense relationship. thank you very much, chris. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell rep
president obama wants to get it done. he wants to keep the sort of onus on republicans to get something done. that, i think, will focus us a little bit on immigration reform, maybe a slight move off the fiscal cliff for a few hours tomorrow. >> in fact, i think the meeting actually starts this afternoon, so i misspoke on that. they might have wanted not to it talk about the drug war, but they have this horrible assassination now of the death of the mayor a fighter against the cartel and...
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to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama. three weeks before an election. >> ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd it was wrong. yet, they have not cleared that
to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama. three weeks before an election. >> ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd it was wrong. yet, they have not cleared that
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john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the de demographics are non our side and we are going to have to give a much more positive agenda. and as far as young women are concerned, absolutely. i don't think anybody like me, i can state my position on borgs, but other than that, leave the issue alone. >> you say leave the issue alone. you'd say freedom of choice is this. >> i would allow people tho hav those opinions and respect those positions. i'm proud of my pro-life opinion and record, but i respect your views. >> as republicans continue to access their second loss of the presidency in a row, they keep grasping at all kinds of straws instead of admitting they were up against a superior candidate in barack
john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the de demographics are non our side and we are going to have to give...
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. >> obama is going to a toy factory, correct, tomorrow? a toy factory during the holiday shopping season ahead of christmas. >> tomorrow he will be meeting with ceos including goldman sachs and some will meet with the president in person. the president is making the case that he is meeting with every constituency out there. >> thanks for that wrap up. do you think his assessment is right that the markets freaked out? >> i think in general if your catalyst is the u.s. government you should be generally freaking out. free market is not one that hangs on every whim and word of harry reid. at the end of the day there are multiple factors at work here. china hit a new low. we will talk about these things but i think it is multiple factors a at work beyond what somebody in washington says. >> this reminds me of when we had the european crisis or in 2008 when there was the vote on the tarp. i don't think we should overreact to this. if i learned anything from schoolhouse rock making a bill is like sausage making. you will have imaginations going
. >> obama is going to a toy factory, correct, tomorrow? a toy factory during the holiday shopping season ahead of christmas. >> tomorrow he will be meeting with ceos including goldman sachs and some will meet with the president in person. the president is making the case that he is meeting with every constituency out there. >> thanks for that wrap up. do you think his assessment is right that the markets freaked out? >> i think in general if your catalyst is the u.s....
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when president obama was there and you could try to deny him a second term. that was their organizing principle. that is gone. it's going is to be harder this time around. especially as the economy gets better. >> it's going to take more than grass roots. it's great they are organizing and talking about it, but president obama had an innate ability to raise big money. can the democrats duplicate that? i mean there's going to be somebody coming along and inspiring people to the next level to keep this thing going. can it have an effect in the midterms? >> there's a difference between what president obama was doing in the end, and these big donors coming together in what mitt romney called the darkrooms. what you've got to have here is some of this big money sitting it out for 2016. they have to be focused on 2014 and try to win back especially the house seats. that's where the real difference is going to come. if the president gets another honeymoon, it's going to be over by february. does he get a second? >> the finances of the country is very important. but
when president obama was there and you could try to deny him a second term. that was their organizing principle. that is gone. it's going is to be harder this time around. especially as the economy gets better. >> it's going to take more than grass roots. it's great they are organizing and talking about it, but president obama had an innate ability to raise big money. can the democrats duplicate that? i mean there's going to be somebody coming along and inspiring people to the next level...
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we don't know what religion obama is, christian muslim. as you pointed out with your examples there's no they're there, but they feel they to have fill the hours with something p.m. they've got their christmas ornaments packed away, they have to make good with what they have. >> of course, they can't blame everything on barack obama so they have to go in another direction when it comes to christmas. >> you know. >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was just going to say there is an interesting debate about the role christmas has in our culture now and the corps rottization of it and the fact that big business that sort of turned it into a consumer extravaganza. on thanksgiving, lots of retail workers were forced to work on a family holiday. there's a logical place you can take this discussion, but fox news can't attack big business. it can't attack corporate culture, so it's got to be somehow democrats are ruining the holiday. >> i was going to say it's sort of war on exploitation that other people should be having against those people. that's not goin
we don't know what religion obama is, christian muslim. as you pointed out with your examples there's no they're there, but they feel they to have fill the hours with something p.m. they've got their christmas ornaments packed away, they have to make good with what they have. >> of course, they can't blame everything on barack obama so they have to go in another direction when it comes to christmas. >> you know. >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was just going to say there is an...
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president obama takes his plan to the people. the white house launches a new campaign to promote middle-class tax cuts, but are we closer to or further from the fiscal cliff? economist justin woolfers weighs in, jose diaz-balart on whether republican heard the wake-up call on immigration reform. there was a lot on the ballot this year but is the drug war over? we will ask knorr new york m-- new york magazine's benjamin wallace-wells about weed's new world order when "now" starts in 180 seconds. folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy, ronny? happier than gallagher at a farmers' market. get happy. get geico. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. >>> if we had only known yesterday what we know today or known yesterday that we didn't know then what we know today. wait. what? it's tuesday, november 27th. this is "now." >>> joining me today, mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. benjamin wallace-wells of "
president obama takes his plan to the people. the white house launches a new campaign to promote middle-class tax cuts, but are we closer to or further from the fiscal cliff? economist justin woolfers weighs in, jose diaz-balart on whether republican heard the wake-up call on immigration reform. there was a lot on the ballot this year but is the drug war over? we will ask knorr new york m-- new york magazine's benjamin wallace-wells about weed's new world order when "now" starts in...
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some republicans are still suggesting that president obama won re-election because of voter fraud. this time it's virginia attorney general ken kuch nellie, a republican who actively supported mitt romney. he did a radio interview where one of the hosts, cheri jacobus, had reasonable -- let's hear what she said. >> voter photo i.d., obama lost every one of those states. he can't win in a state where photo i.d. is required. so clearly there's something going on out there, and until there's a way to have something done about it, where when you report it, you know it's going to be looked into, the other side just says, oh, well, you're just poor losers and that sort of thing. >> your tone suggests you're a little upset with me. you're preaching to the choir. i'm with you completely. >> well, get this, president obama lost georgia, indiana, kansas, and tennessee not because of their strict photo i.d. laws but because of their conservative voting majorities obviously. >>> neck, a whole new meaning for a campaign in shreds. we're talking literally. the remains of some documents with info
some republicans are still suggesting that president obama won re-election because of voter fraud. this time it's virginia attorney general ken kuch nellie, a republican who actively supported mitt romney. he did a radio interview where one of the hosts, cheri jacobus, had reasonable -- let's hear what she said. >> voter photo i.d., obama lost every one of those states. he can't win in a state where photo i.d. is required. so clearly there's something going on out there, and until there's...
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today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle-class family will owe uncle sam another $2,200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing that we can all agree on, that middle-class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans who have been dead set against raising taxes on anyone now hint they may consider other options. >> we've been open to revenue by closing loopholes as long as it's tied to spending cuts and pro-growth tax reform that brudens the base and lowers rates. >> you don't raise rates, you just cap the amount of itemized deductions that taxpayers -- it hits the wealthy. >> reporter: the bottom line, republicans say americans borrowing too much money trying to keep medicare and social security afloat. lawmakers with the fix-the-debt coalition meet here tomorrow. >> there's going to come a point in time where we can't borrow any more money, and interest rates are going to skyrocket. >> th
today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle-class family will owe uncle sam another $2,200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing that we can all agree on, that middle-class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans who have been dead set against raising taxes on anyone now hint they may...
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so sit back in your house and yelled obama, obama while he takes all of the food out of your mouth. host: let me echo some sentiments your efforts to facee spending resistance. the two senators, the story often notes that this is what they would like to see from the president. they want him to start negotiations at a one-one ratio. putting them in line with many in the parties that want to see a harder line taken by democrats. some advocating going over the fiscal cliff. democratic caller, mary, what do you think? having delivered the cliff and start over. host: are you concerned about the economic impact? caller: i do not know why on earth -- i am on social security. host: in order not to touch those programs -- caller: just kind of overhaul them. just fix them a tas -- tad. host: what about raising the eligibility age? caller: do not do that. i am 59. i might retire run 65. host: that is mary. on our line for republicans, kevin, go ahead. . caller: i think they should go off the cliff. for the past four years we heard how terrible the bush tax cuts are. i think we definitely need
so sit back in your house and yelled obama, obama while he takes all of the food out of your mouth. host: let me echo some sentiments your efforts to facee spending resistance. the two senators, the story often notes that this is what they would like to see from the president. they want him to start negotiations at a one-one ratio. putting them in line with many in the parties that want to see a harder line taken by democrats. some advocating going over the fiscal cliff. democratic caller,...
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that senate democrat was president obama. i don't often agree with president obama on matters of policy and the issue he was referring to here was different than this one, but the principle he expressed in defendin defends position then is one i believe in wholeheartedly. so let me sum it up this way. for the sake of this institution and the future of the country, i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grab strenuously and loudly. it may be the most important thing you ever do. because the debates. moment are passing -- because the debates of the moment are passing. but the senate must endure. and nothing less is at stake. mr. president, i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: the republican leader said it's absolutely true. i follow the golden rule. and it's very clear what's happened during this congress. we can go over all the numbers, and i think they really project what's happened, about the hundreds and hundreds of times that we have been forced to file cloture on rel
that senate democrat was president obama. i don't often agree with president obama on matters of policy and the issue he was referring to here was different than this one, but the principle he expressed in defendin defends position then is one i believe in wholeheartedly. so let me sum it up this way. for the sake of this institution and the future of the country, i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grab strenuously and loudly. it may be the most important thing you ever...
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that senate democrat was president obama. i don't often agree with president obama on matters of policy and the issue he was referring to here was different than this one, but the principle he expressed in defending his position then is one that i believe in wholeheartedly. let me sum it up this way. for the sake of this institution and the future of the country, i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grab strenuously and loudly. it may be the most important thing you ever do. because the debates of the moment are passing but the senate must endure. and nothing less is at stake. mr. president, i yield the floor. >> republican leader, absolutely true, i follow the golden rule and it is very clear what has happened during this congress we can go over all the numbers and really project what happened about the hundreds and hundreds of times we have been forced to file cloture on relatively meaningless things my friend the republican leader thinks changing rules can make the senate more efficient as an assault
that senate democrat was president obama. i don't often agree with president obama on matters of policy and the issue he was referring to here was different than this one, but the principle he expressed in defending his position then is one that i believe in wholeheartedly. let me sum it up this way. for the sake of this institution and the future of the country, i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grab strenuously and loudly. it may be the most important thing you ever...
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obama went after a deal. the package would extend the bush tax cut for two years extend the tax cuts for the wealthy. obama had won 238 of stimulus for yielding on 114 billion in high income tax cuts. he says clearly obama had gotten the better deal. the public had been seen this over tax cuts answered over that obama had not gotten what he wanted. axelrod and other aids were not allowed to admit in public that the president had achieved a second stimulus. that's part of why the economy has gotten better and better and we've had all these months of job growth. corn finishes by saying what happened is not an indication that obama is likely to yield in a new faceoff but he will be assessing the dynamics in a new grid lock. that's not caving in, that's governing. much more as we continue on the "stephanie miller show." >> putting people out of work. >> stephanie: we need to get rid of all of them. there will be lungs on every governor tomorrow night. she is awesome. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller s
obama went after a deal. the package would extend the bush tax cut for two years extend the tax cuts for the wealthy. obama had won 238 of stimulus for yielding on 114 billion in high income tax cuts. he says clearly obama had gotten the better deal. the public had been seen this over tax cuts answered over that obama had not gotten what he wanted. axelrod and other aids were not allowed to admit in public that the president had achieved a second stimulus. that's part of why the economy has...
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that would bay down obama's debt by economic growth. eliminating deductions and credits to give the government more money to spend not only wastes more money, raises taxes, it guts tax reform in the future. this is something the "wall street journal" knows and steve moore wrote about just last saturday. we ought to be going for lower marginal tax rates to have economic growth, and of course obama wants republicans, some republicans to start a discussion about how they'd raise taxes, while nobody has asked him or van hollen on your show what spending cuts are you talking about, he mentioned spending cuts -- stpho: it's a fair point and dick durbin a democratic senator from illinois is going to say you need to separate the fiscal cliff discussions from any talk about reforming medicare or medicaid. the bottom line in all of this is you're not going to get a vote that passes in the house unless democrats concede on the entitlement programs, and that there is the stalemate, in the 15 seconds i have left, right or wrong? >> well the challeng
that would bay down obama's debt by economic growth. eliminating deductions and credits to give the government more money to spend not only wastes more money, raises taxes, it guts tax reform in the future. this is something the "wall street journal" knows and steve moore wrote about just last saturday. we ought to be going for lower marginal tax rates to have economic growth, and of course obama wants republicans, some republicans to start a discussion about how they'd raise taxes,...
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it went for obama. we gotta be vigilant because every two years, there is another opportunity for them to narrow that electorate to make sure the people that they don't want to vote, that they stay at home. >> bill: so now we know, republicans have finally admitted in florida what that was all about as they were trying to steal the election. suppress the vote. prevent democrats from voting. steal the election. and they failed. but you know what? they're not going to give up. in florida and in other states. we gotta be on top of that for sure. great, great work as always for think progress. igor volsky, deputy editor. thanks for coming in this morning. thank you. >> bill: we'll be right back and take a look at some of the e-mails flowing in already this morning here on today's "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." you hang up first. [ female announcer ] in just 60 seconds, you've got snack-defying, satisfying totino's pizza rolls. [ ringing ] it's on. let's roll. at cepacol we'
it went for obama. we gotta be vigilant because every two years, there is another opportunity for them to narrow that electorate to make sure the people that they don't want to vote, that they stay at home. >> bill: so now we know, republicans have finally admitted in florida what that was all about as they were trying to steal the election. suppress the vote. prevent democrats from voting. steal the election. and they failed. but you know what? they're not going to give up. in florida...
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obama care. we achieve many of those savings by ending the overpayments to some of the private insurance companies within medicare. >> but we don't have health care costs under control. and that still is -- obama care did not address the rising cost of health care. frankly, some say wasn't even meant to. it was about access to health care. we can -- we can -- we can fight that battle all over again. but, bottom line, i think, is that, you know, mitch mcconnell and others have said that, you know, they're the ones who are bending. they're not seeing the bending from the democrats. let's listen to mcconnell for a second here. >> republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone, we've been clear about what we'll do and what we won't, and yet we remain at an impasse. leading us to ask, why? because a vocal minority on the hard left continues to argue to leaders of their party from the president on down that democrats in washington should do absolutely nothing about short-term or long-term spending pr
obama care. we achieve many of those savings by ending the overpayments to some of the private insurance companies within medicare. >> but we don't have health care costs under control. and that still is -- obama care did not address the rising cost of health care. frankly, some say wasn't even meant to. it was about access to health care. we can -- we can -- we can fight that battle all over again. but, bottom line, i think, is that, you know, mitch mcconnell and others have said that,...
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president obama has spoken. he has promised he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts for the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. i also hope my colleagues, republicans and democrats, members of the house and the senate, used the thanksgiving break not only to give thanks but also to reflect on the monumental tasks ahead. i hope they took time to reflect on the effort it will take to complete these tasks. as president eisenhower said, there will have to be compromises, and seeking the middle of the road isn't just ac mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: the republican leader. mr. mcconnell: as most americans know by now, the next few weeks are clinton cally important in the life of our nation. unless -- are critically important in the life of our nation. unless the president leads and congress acts, a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts could go into effect that would have a devastating effect on our national defense
president obama has spoken. he has promised he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts for the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. i also hope my colleagues, republicans and democrats, members of the house and the senate, used the thanksgiving break not only to give thanks but also to reflect on the monumental tasks ahead. i hope they took time to reflect on the effort it will take to complete these tasks. as president...
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same with president obama and think obama care and financial reform . attacking wall street as the villian. president roosevelt did that . wall street was the villians and shades of that exactly. 2013 president obama wall street is the villiage and then the rearrangement of society. fdr tried to do it. and president obama is doing it and run away government spending. parallels are there and hope it doesn't work out like it did then. >> we want all americans back to work. and back in the 30s industrial plummeted 34 percent in the first year of the second term. >> that is a depression in and of itself . set in the overall depression of the 1930s. 1937 was a catastrophic year. >> steve: how did thereat look some >> not much better. what bailed america and the world out of the depression was the second world war. >> gretchen: exactly. how did you get out of the mess in the 30s. we don't want to predict that. >> steve: we are just getting out of two of them. >> i think the bottom line here is fdr's policiless did not get america out of the great depression,
same with president obama and think obama care and financial reform . attacking wall street as the villian. president roosevelt did that . wall street was the villians and shades of that exactly. 2013 president obama wall street is the villiage and then the rearrangement of society. fdr tried to do it. and president obama is doing it and run away government spending. parallels are there and hope it doesn't work out like it did then. >> we want all americans back to work. and back in the...
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meantime today president obama will be meeting with small business leaders. at issue of course is the series of tax increases and spending cuts that kick in at the end of the year if congress doesn't act. >> there will come a point in time where we can't borrow anymore money and interest rates will sky rocket. >> cnbc's raise above campaign continues. we're asking who has the courage to rise above partisan politics and find a solution. among our guests, three men who understand washington, wall street and corporate america very well. we have the chairman of president george w. bush's council of economic adviser, ed lazear, roger altman, and real estate tycoon don peebles. but let's cover this morning's top headlines. >>> we do have a lot in the corporate headlines this morning including equity residential and avalon bay communities agreeing to buy archstone from lehman brothers holdings. the price tag, about $6.5 billion in cash and stock. the deal gives lehman cash to help pay its creditors as it liquidates. but it paid $22 billion for this company originall
meantime today president obama will be meeting with small business leaders. at issue of course is the series of tax increases and spending cuts that kick in at the end of the year if congress doesn't act. >> there will come a point in time where we can't borrow anymore money and interest rates will sky rocket. >> cnbc's raise above campaign continues. we're asking who has the courage to rise above partisan politics and find a solution. among our guests, three men who understand...
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president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, mark. so the house is back in session today, and so far there are no talks scheduled between top republicans and the president, we understand. >> no, that's true, zoraida. in fact we haven't seen the congressional leadership and president obama meet since november 16th. now there were staff discussions over the thanksgiving holiday. they don't seem to be as productive as some people had hoped, as you said, we are now 35 days until the fiscal cliff. what we do know, though, is that president obama did reach out to house speaker john boehner. he is the republican, the senate
president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, mark. so the house is back in session...
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he's known boehner for years and believes the speaker wants to make a deal with president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff, but he's seen washington's dysfunction and has his doubts. >> he's somewhat just like the president. it's time to do ahead and do your job. >> speaker boehner is secure enough in his own district that his constituents will give him a free hand to negotiate. his bigger challenge is pulling together republicans from districts across the country behind any deal he ultimately strikes with president obama. >> carl, that's not just john boehner's job. it's also the job of eric cantor, the majority leader the on the democratic seed, harry reid and chuck schumer have to pull their flock behind any potential deal struck. that's not easy getting 60 votes the in the senate and the majority of the house. >> rangling cats on both sides, john. the president meeting with business executives at the white house, going to pennsylvania this week to visit a small business. all theater, or is there something bigger going on? >> he's trying to put pressure on the congress and generate mor
he's known boehner for years and believes the speaker wants to make a deal with president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff, but he's seen washington's dysfunction and has his doubts. >> he's somewhat just like the president. it's time to do ahead and do your job. >> speaker boehner is secure enough in his own district that his constituents will give him a free hand to negotiate. his bigger challenge is pulling together republicans from districts across the country behind any deal he...